Enlighten me, great one.

You have made my point.

RIP Code and Miniluv gankers

Any drop in accounts will be countered by the fact that others stay in this game, cause they dont get blown up by 1 cheating dude.

So no more Eve-Central Market crawler then?

There's literally no way for them to detect people using mouse/keyboard drivers to bind multiple key presses to one button. None.

D. MONITORING

You agree that CCP may remotely monitor your Game hardware solely for the purpose of establishing whether in playing the Game and accessing the System you are using software created or approved by CCP, or whether you are using unauthorized software created by you or a third party in contravention of Section 6.

Not without stuffing your computer full of malware.


There's only so much they can do with monitoring alone. To actually be effective, we'd have to be talking about active modification. Is that in the EULA as well?

How is this different?

Personally, if EVE makes the changes that would be necessary to appeal to a larger segment of the gaming population, at the cost of the "hardcore" players it has now, I would stay.

Frankencomputer is what I have linked in my sig as mk III.

if you don't stop I'm telling Carneros that you're posting bad.

I'm still trying to spot all the fallacies in this post. Every time I look, I find something new.

I'd like to help both of you, but I don't know where to start.

RE: Adrie

Ok, I'll disagree with that point, since EVE is already what it is with a mix of F2P and P2P, and I think adding more players would mean more revenue. In other words, if it's likely true, it's also true right now, and even by percentages, more players means more revenue.

So. Why they would do such a thing is revenue, which they would gain.

My second main issue with your statement is the presumption that making EVE not-clunky means appeasing childish, selfish behavior, and also that you said it.

I'm not concerned with things like people's personalities, and I think it's a waste of time and words to be judge players when the goal is whether they have enough fun to pay money.

And Nolak, I don't know where you got the prompts for all those words. If it's in response to my comment to Adrie, I'll need each paragraph summarized with their main statements and conclusions (per paragraph). Reading that post feels like wading through knee-high water.

Adrie. your post assumes EVE cannot be improved to appeal to everyone while retaining its functionality. I'm not sure if you're being difficult or if you're just unimaginative. I'm not sure why you would find it acceptable for a video game to be flawed like this.

I'll keep your post in mind for my second UI suggestion for replacing the eyesore that is overview. As for the other things like multiboxing, I have several threads open in F&I, one in particular, for ways to stream multiboxing, which is a product that is being sold.

And there in a nutshell is the WHOLE problem.. There is no official clarification from CCP (unless random twitter posts are considered "official")

CCP need to step up and put this issue to bed by making an "Official" announcement as to what is and isn't legal post January 1st.
The way things stand now, I could technically be banned just for using the window manager provided by my OS.

The "we're going to be monitoring the situation and will make appropriate changes as needed" just isn't going to cut it here. This is a huge and important issue that needs to be dealt with in a professional way via open, comprehensive communication.

CCP actively encourage multi box, multi character play. Give us an idea as to how this fits in with this change, what further restrictions are likely to be placed on multi boxers if this change does not produce the desired result.

I heard that moa is planning to report us all as isboxers. Some kind of alliance mail that was noticed on eveskunk.

Sigh, I guess our 0.0 dream ends, somehow...

THEY HAVE 5 MORE DAYS IS BOXING. THEN WE WILL BE REPORTING TO CCP EVERY GOONIE IS BOXER EVERY DAY TILL ALL THESE MOTHER ******* ARE BANNED!

except broadcasting can do more then what a normal player can do in PVP, but not in other aspects of the game. Sure for mining its much more efficient to manually do everything but controlling your own fleet gives u a huge advantage. People may say its not true but it does give you an advantage. The entire picture needs to be looked at not just one side.

Any chance you are actually going to enforce this new rule? Or is this going to be like botting and RMT where you enforce it when you can be bothered?

I ask because every ice field is still full of barges all locking on to an ice block at the same time.

Fraternity and Nulli are sending in mass petitions about me to CCP for using ISBoxer bombers against them...

haha...

CCP Peligro has already made it clear you can be banned for using the shortcuts provided by CCP in interface management . Set those shortcuts up to suit your needs and operate them too quickly (not sure what constitutes too quickly), you can be banned because "round robin" is simply using a set of keystrokes to carry out 1 command at a time on one interface at a time and the use of round robin keystrokes will get you banned.

Wait what, what is this keybind listed at?

Right so he did that and managed to hammer each one 20x within 2 seconds with perfect alternation...remembering that this is double the APM of a professional starcraft player (since you decided to raise that as a point of expertise in these matters).

I call complete and utter BS on that and I'd say that even if CCP are just using APM as a way of measuring multiplexing that taking an upper boundary at double that capable of an esports professional seems pretty fair to me.

Oh and I just noticed another use of multiplexing - when he selects the beacon as the selected item, he only does it once at 27s. So how did the other 19 ships have that preselected as their object to orbit before he does this 1200APM?

The more I look at this video the more I see this supposedly smart multiboxer illustrating his EULA cockups in a publicly available video.

inb4 removed from Youtube ^^